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Changing definitions

In 1999, Scott McNealy, the notoriously arrogant and self-absorbed chairman of Sun Microsystems, said, "You have no privacy. Get over it."

His profits come first. Your privacy is a remotely distant second. His greed trumps your rights; after all, he does represent a corporation, and we all know that corporate rights trump individual rights.

Apparently, members of the Bush administration hold our fundamental liberties in as much contempt as McNealy. It seems that anonymity should no longer be considered a component of the inherent right to privacy:

As Congress debates new rules for government eavesdropping, a top intelligence official says it is time that people in the United States changed their definition of privacy.

Privacy no longer can mean anonymity, says Donald Kerr, the principal deputy director of national intelligence. Instead, it should mean that government and businesses properly safeguard people's private communications and financial information.

Never mind the fact that, without some possibility of anonymity, privacy becomes meaningless. That no longer matters. What matters to people like Kerr is the White House's ability to snoop into every facet of your private life without warrant, justification or oversight. We're supposed to trust them not to misuse our personal information, just like we're supposed to trust McNealy and his corporation's benevolence.

According to these men, we live in a brave new world, where freedom means not being sent to Guantanamo, peace means perpetual war, prosperity means living beyond our means, security and torture mean whatever the White House says they mean, and privacy does not mean keeping personal information secret. Words change. Times change. Values change. According to them, we're just supposed to adapt to the fact that rights we once enjoyed have now become quaint relics of a past they consider irrelevant.

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Published Monday, November 12, 2007 9:48 PM by RussMcBee

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:38 AM by Neoke

# re: Changing definitions

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

To the future or to the past, to a time when thought is free, when men are different from one another and do not live alone—to a time when truth exists and what is done cannot be undone:

From the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother, from the age of doublethink -- greetings !

Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime IS death.

Please stop this macabre merry-go-round.  I want to get off please.

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:51 PM by Tom R

# re: Changing definitions

Russ,

You have taken Scott McNealy's comments WAY out of context, created a corporate bogeyman for us all to blame and demonize, and aligned McNealy with Bush through guilt by association.  McNealy is a pretty progressive guy and should never be lumped in with the execs of places like Enron or Wal-Mart.  Unless all execs are evil -- then we have a real difference of opinion and you sound more Weatherman than progressive.  

McNealy refuses to get black-and-white on this issue, and sees that our technology stripped away much of what we assume is privacy some time ago.  Xerox machines began wrecking copyrights decades ago, as music tapes and Napster reduced artist and music company royalties.  Then we find that we have digital traces of everyone's computer activity. And that digital tracing forestalls PLENTY of criminal activity on computers, and also makes it possible to, well, indict everyone at Enron.  So, Visa *does* know everything you bought; yes, that knowledge can be abused, so we do need laws and enforcement to prevent that.  

What to do?  Stop using credit and debit cards?  Nice impulse but NBL (not bloody likely).  

They caught Timothy McVeigh through traces.  And the 9/11 hijackers became obvious fast because of electronic traces.  

This isn't 1984 now, in my humble opinion.  it's more like Paul Simon's line from _Boy In The Bubble_: "These are the days of miracle and wonder."  McNealy is being honest: there is no more real privacy, because our technology is tracing all our actions and has for awhile.  Don't we need to get over that?  In our actions, it appears we have.  Perhaps in our heads and our hearts, we're still catching up.  

And McNealy's not for Gitmo, either.  

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:27 PM by RussMcBee

# re: Changing definitions

Tom, when McNealy said those words, his statement was preceded by his assertion that consumer privacy concerns were a "red herring." He made that infamous remark when addressing reporters on the release of Sun's Jini technology, which promised to allow consumer devices to share information back and forth. His statement came in response to a reporter's question about privacy safeguards within the technology.

His response to the reporter's concern about privacy was one of arrogant dismissal, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

And contrary to your assertion, McNealy is no progressive. He's stated repeatedly that he's a "raging libertarian" and that he considers things like medical leave benefits an unfair financial burden on corporations.

On the privacy issue, he made the statement "You have no privacy. Get over it" as a means of dismissing valid concerns about his company's treatment of private citizens' details; he was not merely railing against VISA credit records or hospital medical records. He was dismissing concerns about a technology he hoped his company could sell.

Considering the fact that McNealy has also repeatedly advocated the use of a centralized national ID card to make tracking of us even easier, it seems rather silly of you to suggest that he was merely commenting on the changing nature of privacy.

Like the Bush administration official mentioned in the post above, McNealy has long suggested that we should abandon the very idea of privacy as any sort of right or liberty. That places him squarely within their camp.

Contrary to your shabby little strawman argument, I never said all execs are evil. However, if my disdain for reptiles like McNealy makes me a Weatherman, then make the most of it.

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:16 PM by Tom R

# re: Changing definitions

OK, I'll withdraw the Weatherman label -- an unnecessary flame to say hello to your substantive website.  I actually agree with you on plenty of issues, especially on Edwards and healthcare.  

You painted an awfully broad brush across McNealy, and made him look more like Larry Ellison or T. Boone Pickens in saying "His profits come first. Your privacy is a remotely distant second. His greed trumps your rights; after all, he does represent a corporation, and we all know that corporate rights trump individual rights."  McNealy is not known for his greed around Silicon Valley, and your implication is that executives go for greed over rights.  I don't think you generalize like that.  

And maybe you and agree that McNealy's not a real libertarian.   I mean what kind of principled libertarian would support national ID cards or defend the loss of privacy?  

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:18 PM by Tom R

# re: Changing definitions

OK, I'll withdraw the Weatherman label -- an unnecessary flame to say hello to your substantive website.  I actually agree with you on plenty of issues, especially on Edwards and healthcare.  

You painted an awfully broad brush across McNealy, and made him look more like Larry Ellison or T. Boone Pickens in saying "His profits come first. Your privacy is a remotely distant second. His greed trumps your rights; after all, he does represent a corporation, and we all know that corporate rights trump individual rights."  McNealy is not known for his greed around Silicon Valley, and your implication is that executives go for greed over rights.  I don't think you can generalize like that.  

And maybe you and I agree that McNealy's not a real libertarian.   I mean what kind of principled libertarian would support national ID cards or defend the loss of privacy?  

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